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tusi0114
03-05-2011, 12:08 AM
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (Button) ($156.55)
SB ($74.55)
BB ($100)
UTG ($171.65)
MP ($100)
CO ($179.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/5h.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/4h.gif
3 folds, Hero bets $3, SB raises $9.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $7

Flop: ($21) http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/9h.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/qh.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/8c.gif (2 players)
SB bets $21, Hero raises $146.55 (All-In), SB calls $43.55 (All-In)

Turn: ($150.10) http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/ks.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($150.10) http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/td.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $150.10

What u think pre 3bet call right against 25% 3bet guy, dont know much about him, only 20hands. And flop AI?

want2push
03-05-2011, 12:17 AM
I dont like your preflop play. I usually fold this hand to a 3bet. Sometimes 4bet/fold against a full stack player, but this time villain had just 75 big blinds, so I really do not like a 4bet/fold either.

Lev729
03-05-2011, 12:17 AM
What u think pre 3bet call right against 25% 3bet guy, dont know much about him, only 20hands. And flop AI?
He had only 75bb, so I think that was a bad call.

tusi0114
03-05-2011, 12:20 AM
Yes if I look back I also think its not right...light 4bet is a good advice I will try to use it more than rather than 3bet/call....i don't mean against a stack like this. :D

Holdenper
03-05-2011, 02:04 PM
I dont like your preflop play. I usually fold this hand to a 3bet. Sometimes 4bet/fold against a full stack player, but this time villain had just 75 big blinds, so I really do not like a 4bet/fold either.

+1

You can't make a move pf, and u didn't have the correct implied odds to call. Postflop u won't have much room 4 some fancy play, so just fold, if the effective stack is deep like 200-300bb i would definitely call at least, or 4bet.
And don't get any conclusion for the villain's 3betting pattern from 20 hand. VPIP/PFR set in like 70-100 hands, but 3bet, fold to resteal, CR need a sample at least 250-300 hand.

GL

RX450h
03-05-2011, 04:09 PM
You can't make a move pf, and u didn't have the correct implied odds to call. Postflop u won't have much room 4 some fancy play, so just fold, if the effective stack is deep like 200-300bb i would definitely call at least, or 4bet.
And don't get any conclusion for the villain's 3betting pattern from 20 hand. VPIP/PFR set in like 70-100 hands, but 3bet, fold to resteal, CR need a sample at least 250-300 hand.

GL

+1

Preflop fold is the best move you can do here.