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tesla79
03-05-2011, 04:37 PM
€0.05/€0.10 No Limit Holdem
Entraction
6 Players
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Stacks:
UTG Nolikoff (€10)
UTG+1 Mr_Usanov (€27.36)
CO zizou55 (€6.14)
BTN OwenMeany (€15.11)
SB Hero (€26.77)
BB pepe59 (€3.52)

Pre-Flop: (€0.15, 6 players) Hero is SB :ah: :kh:
3 folds, OwenMeany raises to €0.50, Hero calls €0.45, pepe59 calls €0.40

Flop: :4h: :9h: :jc: (€1.50, 3 players)
Hero checks, pepe59 checks, OwenMeany checks

Turn: :8d: (€1.50, 3 players)
Hero checks, pepe59 bets €1.50, OwenMeany calls €1.50, €1.5 to Hero (€26.27)?

So, I'm very disappointed about this hand.
OwenMeany is a huge fish: 76h 73/33 AFq: 28
I think, I had enough implied odds to call, especially We are in deep.
What do you think?

babyonboard
03-05-2011, 04:46 PM
i would 3bet pre for value. turn call i think ok because of implied odds(they can have weaker fd-s and if you hit, you win huge) but raising just doesnt make sense having A high 3way.

Holdenper
03-05-2011, 06:51 PM
3bet-3bet-3bet! Againts a fish u wanna build big pots with your strong hands. If u would 3bet pf, than OTF pot ~2,5, u could Cbet 2, OTT pot is ~6,5eur, and u can CR ai, or something like that:)
In this case the pot is 4,5, u need to call 1,5, so I guess u can make that call, if u feel enough implied odds in the hand, but I would maybe CR AI right here. Owen doesn't Cbet u checked twice, so maybe pepe is just wanna steal the pot.

I guess it's just get down on your reads...
A, Is there any chance if u hit ur flush u can win a really big pot? (like 20eur+?)
If the answer is yes, than u need to call at least
If the answer is no call isn't good
B, What can villain 1, 2 have? They're strong? (not really I guess) They've got medium strenght hands? Can they fold to a CR shove?
If u can get them to fold a mid pair, and they will call only with KJ, AJ, 2pairs, sets, str8, than I guess u should jam AI
If they are quite strong, or have a good draw than u cann call, 'cos u've got a plenty of implied odds

If u think that they aren't gonna fold to a CR AI, but they aren't gonna pay u if u hit your flush, than u need to fold

tesla79
03-05-2011, 11:21 PM
Turn: :8d: (€1.50, 3 players)
Hero checks, pepe59 bets €1.50, OwenMeany calls €1.50, Hero folds

River: :qh: (€4.50, 2 players)
pepe59 checks, OwenMeany bets €4.50, pepe59 goes all-in €1.52

Final Pot: €10.52
pepe59 shows two pairs Nines and Eights
:9s: :8s:
OwenMeany shows a straight King high
:tc: :kc:

OwenMeany wins €10.15 (net +€3.65)

pepe59 lost €3.52
Hero lost €0.50

So, I folded. :(
I didn't 3bet, because I didn't want to play OOP in deepstack.
Maybe I was wrong.
Thx guys!

iceTray
03-06-2011, 12:23 PM
heh? you didn't want to play deep OOP so you didn't 3bet fish? but this is what was you exactli doing. played OOP on a drawheavy board... it is a vast mistake to limp from SB with AKs. next time you should 3bet ~1.8-2 eur.

want2push
03-06-2011, 01:48 PM
I would 3bet pre for value -> How to Maximize Your Winnings with AK in a 6 Max NLHE Cash Game (http://www.rakerace.com/poker-strategy/advanced-strategy/how-to-maximize-your-winnings-with-ak-in-a-6-max-nlhe-cash-game/)

You may consider check/calling turn.