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tusi0114
03-08-2011, 08:40 PM
$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
PartyPoker (http://weaktight.com/partypoker/)
4 Players
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Stacks:
Hero ($126.08)
BTN ($98.50)
SB ($258.66)
BB ($50)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 4 players) Hero is CO :qs: :jc:
Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold

Flop: :2h: :8h: :jh: ($5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.75, SB calls $3.75

Turn: :7c: ($12.50, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $9.37, SB calls $9.37

River: :5d: ($31.24, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $23.43, SB calls $23.43

Final Pot: $78.10

I used to minraise with crappy hands sometimes to shake up my game a little bit what u think of minR in CG?
FLop TPWK protection bet
Turn maybe to agroo because i was on bit lighttilt
River bet total idiot thing check back is good because of the SD value...

Holdenper
03-09-2011, 12:36 AM
Don't minraise only with ur crappy hands. It's a leak, and a huge betting pattern tell for observant regs!
I like fix pf raises more, but if u wanna mixin' up with raise sizes than do it totally random mode:)

Cbet is fine, I think turn Cbet is OK also, but OTR u should check it back imo

castor11
03-09-2011, 02:18 AM
hmmm... I think minraise on the button is fine, but not in co.
Check back on the river without read or history.

NitroHUN
03-09-2011, 07:40 AM
+1 on river checkback, maybe even turn checkback to see what he's doing on river. If every draw misses you can get some value from missed draws if they decide do bet at it. I like the preflop minraise though if table dinamics suggest it.

RX450h
03-09-2011, 10:39 AM
Do not minraise in cg! I don't say never do it, but do it very rarely in special situation. Minraising is usualy a very good sign of weakness and in higher limits the better regulars will know that and you will loose a lot of money eventually.

River bet is not that bad I think if villain is a fish, otherwise checkback is better.

NitroHUN
03-09-2011, 04:33 PM
Do not minraise in cg! I don't say never do it, but do it very rarely in special situation. Minraising is usualy a very good sign of weakness and in higher limits the better regulars will know that and you will loose a lot of money eventually.


I couldn't disagree with you more! If you think this way you could be exploited to hell. The correct preflop steal size is always the amount that your opponents will fold to. Let's say the table is full of nits playing 8/7/3, and your standard raise is 3.5x. You'll need to pick up the blinds more than 70% of the time. If you just minraise you only need to succesfully steal 55%. Thats a huuuuuuge difference.

tusi0114
03-09-2011, 07:47 PM
i didnt say i minR just with crappy used to do it with monsters too depends on my feelings...

Holdenper
03-09-2011, 10:55 PM
i didnt say i minR just with crappy used to do it with monsters too depends on my feelings...

OK, I misunderstood:) anyway, I think u should use fix raise sizes (like 4bb utg, mp 3bb CO 2,5bb otb 3,5bb sb +1 or 1/2bb /limpers). U need to focusing on other things also...and varying your raise sizes maybe distract your attention from important things