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tob1n
03-22-2011, 04:11 PM
Hi all, so as promised here's my first controversial hand (at least for me) i post.

$0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem
HoldemManager
6 Players
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Stacks:
UTG batvad ($2.08)
UTG+1 simant11 ($4.23)
CO VladPokar ($0.99)
BTN michalmed ($2.80)
SB tob1n ($3.14)
BB Kid Tait ($1.01)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03, 6 players) tob1n is SB :kc: :kh:
batvad raises to $0.08, simant11 calls $0.08, 2 folds, tob1n calls $0.07, 1 fold

Flop: :qc: :qd: :ac: ($0.26, 3 players)
tob1n checks, batvad checks, simant11 checks

Turn: :6h: ($0.26, 3 players)
tob1n checks, batvad bets $0.25, simant11 folds, tob1n folds

Final Pot: $0.51

batvad wins $0.50 (net +$0.17)

tob1n lost $0.08
simant11 lost $0.08

Villain is 47/30 turn aggression is 35% 3bet 12% after 72 hands.
Was this a good laydown? thx:)

tesla79
03-22-2011, 04:29 PM
No way! :) You must 3bet/4bet/5bet/allin with your KK at the micros. I read a study about this.
Especially you have to avoid multiway pot and being out of position.

Anyway, I would have called OTT.

tob1n
03-22-2011, 04:39 PM
oh ok, thx:) i got too scared of a slowplayed ace or a queen (since the guy looked like a fish, who wanted to play tricky).

babyonboard
03-22-2011, 05:38 PM
i think folding on he flop isnt bad in this situation. its a 3way pot and u are a bluffcather with kings:) but raise big pre. sometimes it can be good to slowplay premium hands preflop versus some types of opponents with some history, but its nl2 so just doesnt slowplay.

tob1n
03-22-2011, 05:42 PM
so you think i should have reraised the $0,08 pre-flop? or even go all-in? i didn't do that in this hand because my image was quite tight at the table.

NitroHUN
03-22-2011, 05:51 PM
that's not a problem, the problem is you missed on a ton of value. Stats suggest villain will go allin with MUCH LESS than AA, your goal has to be going pre allin with KK.

tob1n
03-22-2011, 05:53 PM
that's not a problem, the problem is you missed on a ton of value. Stats suggest villain will go allin with MUCH LESS than AA, your goal has to be going pre allin with KK.

Ok, thanks, I will next time:)

NitroHUN
03-22-2011, 05:55 PM
Ok, thanks, I will next time:)

But that doesn't mean raise allin, just raise to 0.35$-0.4$ and if he raises again, go allin.

Holdenper
03-22-2011, 06:06 PM
PF 3bet to 0,30-0,40$, and imho it's a good fold ott, they can have Ax, Qx, so instamuck...but 3bet preflop with QQ+, AK at least!!! It's very important:) GL

castor11
03-22-2011, 09:32 PM
No way! :) You must 3bet/4bet/5bet/allin with your KK at the micros. I read a study about this.
Especially you have to avoid multiway pot and being out of position.


This...:)